Music’s greatest podcast is nation’s ‘Cocaine & Rhinestones’

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Across the time most honky-tonk bartenders are headed residence for the evening, Tyler Mahan Coe shuffles towards his book-strewn workplace within the East Nashville condominium he shares along with his girlfriend and data “Cocaine & Rhinestones,” his fiercely informed, relentlessly researched podcast on the historical past of nation music.

“About 1:30 a.m. is when all of the neighbors get quiet and automobiles cease driving by exterior, and about 5:30 or 6 is when the birds exterior begin making noise,” Coe mentioned throughout a current name.

Coe, the son of Outlaw Nation singer-songwriter David Allan Coe and who dropped out of highschool at 15 to play guitar in his dad’s band, had simply completed taping the fifth episode in his season-long exploration of nation singer George Jones — an artist he mentioned “simply occurred to have this chest cavity that glowed with a lot air.” The primary episode, “Starday Data: The Anti-Nashville Sound,” got here out Tuesday — all two hours and 13 minutes of it — and 17 extra are on the way in which.

The script nonetheless recent on his thoughts, Coe, 36, supplied a litany of Jones-connected subjects he’d addressed in the course of the recording: Spanish bullfighting, medieval match tradition, jousting, Catherine de’ Medici, Martin Luther, Machiavelli, the Protestant Reformation. The strand that tied many of those collectively? The rhinestone stage fits that Jones wore throughout exhibits.

Tammy Wynette and George Jones.

Tammy Wynette and George Jones.

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Season 1 of “Cocaine & Rhinestones,” which got here out in 2017, tells a dozen stand-alone tales about musicians together with the Louvin Brothers, Bobbie Gentry, Wynonna Judd, Loretta Lynn and the Bakersfield staff of Buck Owens and Don Wealthy. However an unshakable perception pushed Coe to place Season 2’s highlight on Jones, who’s accountable for dozens of important nation recordings, together with “He Stopped Loving Her At the moment,” “White Lightning,” “The Grand Tour” and “A Good Yr for the Roses.” Jones died in 2013 at age 81.

“I imagine he was the best nation music singer,” Coe mentioned of the Texas-born Jones, citing “his vary and expertise and inventive intelligence — the present that he was born with and the circumstances of his life that led him to neglect some other avenue obtainable to him and solely give attention to nation music, forsaking every little thing else.”

It’s Coe’s penchant for drama, historical past and storytelling that attracts listeners to “Cocaine & Rhinestones,” which hit No. 1 on iTunes music podcast charts throughout its first season and hovered close to the highest all through its 14-episode run. A primary-time podcaster, Coe researched, wrote and produced it himself, relaying tales of homicide, betrayal, misogyny, racism and damnation among the many ranks of nation musicians who earned their cash by means of the conveyance of comparable themes. In contrast to Season 1’s weekly launch schedule, episodes within the Jones cycle will arrive each two weeks.

Decidedly unpracticed, the primary season vibrated with the duct-taped power of a punk tune: Coe’s tone, a mixture of dry wit and self-assuredness, calls for consideration by means of its feral, get-the-message-out urgency. Every an epic, the episodes include a lot knowledge and dredged-up Nashville marginalia that you’re left equal components dumbfounded and enriched. That he was a novice is obvious in these early chapters, however Coe, who first appeared onstage along with his dad as a 3-year-old, mentioned he drew on his expertise enjoying as an adolescent within the elder Coe’s band.

“I didn’t actually know easy methods to play guitar when he put me within the band. I realized onstage,” mentioned Coe. “You determine easy methods to do it otherwise you cease getting on the stage.”

On “Cocaine & Rhinestones,” Coe conveys the truths about his topics with unflinching directness. A Season 1 episode that paperwork Los Angeles bandleader Spade Cooley, a vicious sexual predator convicted of murdering his spouse, begins with Coe acknowledging that informal nation followers may know solely the fundamentals of the case.

“This was not a home argument that received out of hand. Not an accident with a harmful weapon. Not a so-called crime of ardour. This wasn’t even an remoted incident. It was a savage and deliberate execution which many individuals needed to have seen coming.” He then lays all of it out by drawing on first-hand sourcing and press stories of the time, the gathering of which he indexes on the podcast’s web site.

When Coe first imagined “Cocaine & Rhinestones,” he searched podcast platforms for “nation music,” however the outcomes supplied little satisfaction — “not even a nasty present about nation music.” He provides, “I’ve spent my total life studying books about nation music for pleasure, and since it’s the world that I come from, I simply assumed that somebody would have performed it.”

He spent per week of sleepless nights enthusiastic about how he may fill that want: “It was actually, actually messing with my head.”

His pleasure for the undertaking wasn’t based mostly on an untapped area of interest within the booming audio storytelling sector, he harassed, however as a result of he’d purchased, learn and stored the lengthy out-of-print histories. Season 1 attracts from titles as different as Tom T. Corridor’s “The Storyteller’s Nashville,” Frye Gaillard’s “Watermelon Wine: The Spirit of Nation Music” and Tanya Tucker’s “100 Methods to Beat the Blues.”

Tyler Mahan Coe.

Tyler Mahan Coe close to his Nashville residence.

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Since many nation music books have by no means been digitized, Coe mentioned, “I nearly felt an obligation to do it. If these tales don’t begin being informed within the format that everybody has chosen to eat tales now, which is podcasts, then what occurs to them? Folks aren’t going to recollect.”

“Tyler will likely be speaking about one topic, however he brings so many different topics into it,” mentioned Michael McCall, museum editor on the Nation Music Corridor of Fame in Nashville. “They usually’re all related and quirky — very a lot him. It’s his thoughts working, and you may see the place his ideas lead him, after which he takes you there with him.”

Coe mentioned that he’s fueled by the analysis and reporting and that he’s by no means been one for “podcasts the place it’s simply folks sitting down and speaking, not having thought a lot about what they’re going to say beforehand.” He mentioned this regardless of additionally being the cohost of the delightfully blunt podcast “Your Favourite Band Sucks,” by which he and cohost Mark Mosley rail on standard teams — R.E.M., Queen, the Smiths and the Doorways amongst them — seemingly with out having thought a lot about what they’re going to say beforehand. That’s, apart from that the topic of every episode is presumed to positively suck.

Since that first season of “Cocaine,” the chase for profitable audio content material has grow to be a billion-dollar enterprise. Within the final two years, music streaming platform Spotify acquired Gimlet Media for an estimated $300 million, Amazon purchased Wondery for the same worth and SiriusXM took on the all-in-one podcast manufacturing platform Stitcher for $325 million. About 73 million folks within the U.S. listened to a podcast final yr, based on Edison Analysis.

Coe skilled that rush because the listenership for “Cocaine & Rhinestones” rose, he mentioned. “They’ve all contacted me, and so they wish to purchase it,” Coe says, including that the majority had been aiming to purchase the mental property rights. “I’m not going to promote that, and I’m not even going to promote a part of that for a thousand totally different causes. The following factor that they need is exclusivity. And once more, that simply goes towards all the cause I began doing this.”

He interrupts himself: “Don’t get me incorrect. I’d like to have some huge cash. However I additionally really feel prefer it’s extra essential that anybody who needs to take heed to this be capable to take heed to this.” Coe has upped his merchandising recreation and is operating adverts this season. “There’s a good probability that that is going to begin bringing in much more cash this time. I don’t know, but it surely might.”

Coe’s personal life appears tailor-made for “Cocaine & Rhinestones.” The son of David Allan Coe, who issued his 1970 debut album, “Penitentiary Blues,” after spending a lot of the earlier 20 years incarcerated, first for crimes together with automotive theft after which for killing a fellow inmate — the youthful Coe was raised by a single mom and just about ignored altogether by his father.

The 2 have had a tough relationship and are estranged, Coe mentioned, including later by way of e-mail, “I stay a fan of his music and do assume his profession is essential to the historical past of the style.” Amongst many hits, the elder Coe wrote the Johnny Paycheck customary “Take This Job and Shove It” and Tucker’s 1973 No. 1 nation tune “Would You Lay with Me (In a Subject of Stone).”

“So most of the best nation singers we’ve ever had are additionally very conflicted human beings, and that’s one of many nice components that Tyler will get in his podcast,” the Corridor of Fame’s McCall mentioned when requested about David Allan Coe’s legacy and the son’s connection to it. Calling the elder Coe “an iconoclast and a large number,” McCall added that when he interviewed David Allan Coe, the singer arrived carrying mismatched boots and was cautious of the entire scenario. “It’s who he’s, which isn’t to belief something — and it appears to be like like that went to his household too.”

Cocaine & Rhinestones’ Tyler Mahan Coe talks John Prine.

When he got down to make the primary season, Coe mentioned he already knew he was on a path that may result in Jones, whose life’s arc was crammed with poverty, violence, dependancy, chart-busting success and tabloid-generating arrests.

For sure, a sequence referred to as “Cocaine & Rhinestones” doesn’t stray from detailing the intercourse and medicines of the style, and in Jones’ life, there was loads of each.

To get a way of Coe’s strategy to this narrative, take this nugget he imparts whereas arguing for Jones’ supremacy as a singer. Citing Jones’ best-known tune, 1980’s “He Stopped Loving Her At the moment,” Coe says: “The truth is his voice appears like s— on that tune as a result of he had been hooked on cocaine closely for years and it rotted his vocal cords. His vary is trash in comparison with actually the remainder of his discography on that tune.”

Including that he “might completely see how folks would take heed to that and assume that it’s some overrated bulls—,” Coe mentioned Jones’ devotion to his craft was the results of one thing the singer realized in grade college. “He by no means efficiently held down a single job in his life. He stop college whereas in elementary college after which simply walked across the streets of Beaumont [Texas] with an acoustic guitar.”

Jones began his recording profession mimicking his heroes, most notably Hank Williams. However, Coe says, “in some unspecified time in the future, one thing clicked, and he realized how he might take a chunk from anybody he wished to and put it collectively into one thing else, like a chop-shop sizzling rod or one thing. After which he was simply gone.”

The introduction to the primary episode, “Starday,” begins with a bar-room fixture: “Many nation musicians had been famously hooked on pinball throughout this time,” Coe says, his voice distinctively enunciating every phrase. “Waylon Jennings used to drive all evening after a present to get again to his favourite machines in Nashville. Tompall Glaser spent a lot cash on pinball, the second time he went again to a spot with a machine he preferred, the proprietor had put in six extra.”

Throughout the subsequent 120 minutes, Coe units the stage for a grand Jones narrative. “He’s the one human being to chart within the nation high 40 throughout seven totally different a long time. That appears so vital to me.” Coe mentioned that the outlined vary of the present is Twentieth-century nation music and that the primary season was by design “an anthology factor,” however that every episode figures into the grander story informed within the Jones saga.

That Jones’ story should journey again in time throughout the Atlantic to what the host describes as “folks being obsessive about King Arthur fantasies and mythology” feels inevitable, at the least when informed by means of the wry Coe filter. A spotlight of many nation songs, Coe provides, contain notions of chivalry, “which is, in fact, a robust recurring thread in Tammy Wynette’s music.” Wynette, who for a time was married to Jones, has a tune referred to as “Bedtime Story,” which is about “a king being slayed by a dragon — and the dragon is an allegory for booze, as a result of it’s after she divorced Jones.”

These labyrinthine pathways, which journey by means of landmarks such because the Ryman Auditorium, RCA’s well-known Studio A and Fort Studios (thought of the primary skilled studio in Nashville), could be an excessive amount of for these on the lookout for fast sonic thrills, rote biographical documentaries or open-microphone podcast chatter.

Coe’s learn the criticism that he generally is a onerous hear. “Individuals who assume this can be a present about nation music solely need me to speak about nation artists, or they solely need me to speak about songs. However they don’t get you can’t separate the music from the place these things comes from. It doesn’t get referred to as Fort Studios if folks aren’t stabbing one another on high of horses exterior of castles in Europe, you already know?”

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