However the factor is, they don’t know what they’ve achieved. “What did I do?” As a result of to know, you need to be a craftsman as properly. You must notice what a great tune is. And for those who can’t acknowledge rubbish, it’s very exhausting to know what a great tune is. And that’s what time will get you, to grow to be a great craftsman.
Within the present mannequin of pop songwriting, you could have groups of writers, with a separation of roles like an meeting line — someone does the beat, someone else does the melody. Is that good for music, and good for songwriters?
For me, these songs more often than not grow to be merchandise. There’s no sense of, that is popping out of somebody’s coronary heart. Take Elton John and Bernie Taupin, “Goodbye Yellow Brick Street.” That’s not a product; that’s one thing else. I desire those the place you are feeling that is who’s sending this tune out to folks — that you simply get some a part of them as properly.
I can hear that these pop songs typically have actually good elements, are ultraprofessional and typically very catchy. However they lack that sense of persona, I feel.
What songwriters do you want immediately?
Billie Eilish is fascinating. And naturally I love Taylor Swift as properly. And Rihanna. I feel it’s the entire bundle — the way in which they develop and the way in which they partake within the songwriting and create an inventive entity. I discover that very fascinating, way more fascinating than the type of pop packages, Disney stuff. [Laughs.]
Is it a coincidence you talked about all girls?
I feel it’s. However possibly in my unconscious I select girls. Perhaps as a result of I’ve been within the studio with two girls not too way back.
Benny and I’ve written some new songs, and there might be some new music from Abba launched this autumn. However I’m forbidden to say something extra about it. I’m sorry. I’d have informed you the whole lot, however I can’t. All I can say is that it was improbable within the studio as a result of it was like yesterday. It was so unusual coming into that studio and the 4 of us one another and considering, “What is that this?” All of it got here dashing again.